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Nah, definitely correct but the Gen Y's in this day and age still won't get it.

 

Btw, I'm Gen Y (earlier Gen Y) and don't use Facetube!

 

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Andy

 

Edit: It would seem that there are now Gen Z's too (born 1995 onwards). They have no chance/hope :lol:

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Agree with everything that was said. It's one of the main reasons I use Facebook less and less; it's all disposable information/media. There's no point putting any time and effort into legit replies as it gets swamped by hash tag retards. And like what was said, there's no way to easily search on past information. I still like forums and try to be active on some, but it's hard these days when everyone is lazy where they just want a central hub where everyone else brings the information to them.

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Didn't see it as I don't use FB . Cheers .

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Nice find, that's a fairly accurate synopsis of the situation. The other problem I see with Facebook (who the hell asks for tech advice on Twitter... 100 characters not ftw) is that egos run rampant. Sure you'll get the keyboard warriors on forums due to the sense of anonymity, however on Facebook you can effectively achieve the same degree of anonymity with regard to personal information, but instead you're interacting with people using an avatar of yourself. All the wannabe hardc**ts jump at the chance to talk sh*t, all the bleeding-heart whiteknights dive in the save the damsel in distress, and the trolls just do what they like with really no recourse. Facebook account got blocked? Who cares, just make another one... there's no Admin checking IP addresses to ensure banned users stay banned.

 

I still like forums and try to be active on some, but it's hard these days when everyone is lazy where they just want a central hub where everyone else brings the information to them.

 

That is one of the primary issues I've observed with the current generation, given my housemate is younger than me and his friends younger again. Since they have access to such a vast network of information resources, many never took the time to learn the art of information gathering, and subsequently don't appreciate help when provided. Present them with a problem for which the Internet doesn't provide them with step-by-step help, and they're helpless/useless.

 

For instance, when I was younger and the Internet was just a shadow of its current form, for some knowledge you had no choice but to hit the library or phone/visit specialists in the field. I would talk to shops, manufacturers and suppliers, work out the direction I had to take, investigate and experiement that which I needed to know, then probe further for information until I had enough to work with or could approach field specialists with the correct questions ask or answers to confirm. It takes time and effort just to find the right people to ask, and if you're rude or waste their time they will tell you to f**k off, so there was always incentive to do your share of work.

 

In contrast, what does Gen Z/Y do? They jump onto a forum and ask some of the most obvious questions, ones that can be answered in less time by simply typing three words into Google/Youtube, information mediums that they already use for school/boredom/porn. When someone suggests that they Google/research and come back, as it has been answered in depth, the kids then respond with anything from mild bitching to "fk u cnts i cum here 2 get help i sed plz an u dont help me u fks dis is site 4 halp so dont u tell me 2 google FK U CNTS I FK UR MOTHER I RAPE UR HOLE FAMILY FK UUUU!!!!1". The Youtube comment section never ceases to surprise me in that respect.

 

Interestingly, I feel the cause of the problem is not one of laziness, but rather that it's the result of an extremely strong sense of self-entitlement, courtesy of nobody having beaten the sh*t out of them for being rude. As soon as their ability to mouth off without recourse is taken away, they soon recognise that people don't owe them sh*t.

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Nice find, that's a fairly accurate synopsis of the situation. The other problem I see with Facebook (who the hell asks for tech advice on Twitter... 100 characters not ftw) is that egos run rampant. Sure you'll get the keyboard warriors on forums due to the sense of anonymity, however on Facebook you can effectively achieve the same degree of anonymity with regard to personal information, but instead you're interacting with people using an avatar of yourself. All the wannabe hardc**ts jump at the chance to talk sh*t, all the bleeding-heart whiteknights dive in the save the damsel in distress, and the trolls just do what they like with really no recourse. Facebook account got blocked? Who cares, just make another one... there's no Admin checking IP addresses to ensure banned users stay banned.

 

I still like forums and try to be active on some, but it's hard these days when everyone is lazy where they just want a central hub where everyone else brings the information to them.

 

That is one of the primary issues I've observed with the current generation, given my housemate is younger than me and his friends younger again. Since they have access to such a vast network of information resources, many never took the time to learn the art of information gathering, and subsequently don't appreciate help when provided. Present them with a problem for which the Internet doesn't provide them with step-by-step help, and they're helpless/useless.

 

For instance, when I was younger and the Internet was just a shadow of its current form, for some knowledge you had no choice but to hit the library or phone/visit specialists in the field. I would talk to shops, manufacturers and suppliers, work out the direction I had to take, investigate and experiement that which I needed to know, then probe further for information until I had enough to work with or could approach field specialists with the correct questions ask or answers to confirm. It takes time and effort just to find the right people to ask, and if you're rude or waste their time they will tell you to f**k off, so there was always incentive to do your share of work.

 

In contrast, what does Gen Z/Y do? They jump onto a forum and ask some of the most obvious questions, ones that can be answered in less time by simply typing three words into Google/Youtube, information mediums that they already use for school/boredom/porn. When someone suggests that they Google/research and come back, as it has been answered in depth, the kids then respond with anything from mild bitching to "fk u cnts i cum here 2 get help i sed plz an u dont help me u fks dis is site 4 halp so dont u tell me 2 google FK U CNTS I FK UR MOTHER I RAPE UR HOLE FAMILY FK UUUU!!!!1". The Youtube comment section never ceases to surprise me in that respect.

 

Interestingly, I feel the cause of the problem is not one of laziness, but rather that it's the result of an extremely strong sense of self-entitlement, courtesy of nobody having beaten the sh*t out of them for being rude. As soon as their ability to mouth off without recourse is taken away, they soon recognise that people don't owe them sh*t.

 

Im more of a lurker than a poster (check start date/post count! lol), but I must admit, I still come here to read the reply's such as this above. Never a dull post pmod! :)

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No greater example of this is any of those more international pages

Every other day is a "whats wrong with my KA" with like a one asking to be spoon fed the answer.

 

Plus they are all just names, rarely pay attention to them (unless they have something like Drifta, 240lover or something other shit in there facebook name, to which means usually discount anything they say anyway). There is no form of a reputable repsonder. Forum hearsay is also bad for it, but at least there is some form of reconisabilty of the poster. As silly as some forum names are, you at least come to reconise names so you can be like " that (locky) guy has nfi and just talks shit". Compared to just a bunch of 17y/os half of which dont own one or think that because they have bought a set of Megan coilovers and wound them down all the way on a set of wheel they are god. Or just repeating the dribble they read when the same thing was posted a week ago and the handful of people giving decent answers CBF again as they will probably be ignored or fight all the mouth breathers comments going off topic or just looking to post a pic of there own car on the smallest of segways

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Agree with everything that was said. It's one of the main reasons I use Facebook less and less; it's all disposable information/media. There's no point putting any time and effort into legit replies as it gets swapped by hash tag retards. And like what was said, there's no way to easily search on past information. I still like forums and try to be active on some, but it's hard these days when everyone is lazy where they just want a central hub where everyone else brings the information to them.

 

That is so right, it was funny as yesterday i posted in a Supra Owners group about a little basic fact that "Red" Coolant isnt Toyota only.. found all the facts then figured meh.. after all this somebody wont read it.. if somebody google's all this it wont even show up.

 

Facebook has its place, but when people use it for the answers to everything its just crap, i cant say ive ever asked many questions on there.. Normally when i do ive exhausted all other avenues of help and generally the people on there are just recycling all of that stuff back to me anyway.

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Im more of a lurker than a poster (check start date/post count! lol), but I must admit, I still come here to read the reply's such as this above. Never a dull post pmod! :)

 

Haha thanks man, just engaging in my morning rant. :Drugs:

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on facebook groups where someone is asking a fairly common question I just copy + paste their text into google and then post the link to the search results page.

 

Im all for facebook groups when used as a social tool. discussing topics of interest and sharing opinions. Sure, you're gonna get technical questions among that, but thats not bad. The dopey *milkshakes* that ask facebook groups shit dont VALUE the information they are being given. they just need it to get to the next thing they dont know. They also cant phrase questions properly, cant comprehend answers properly, and usually cant spell either. They dont reply, either.

 

the other thing is, Facebook groups actually have a search function, it just never really works that well.

 

 

I am twice as more likely to provide a shitty, no-help response on facebook purely because the information is so easy to gain on your own without choking the newsfeed of other people with your incredible apathy towards the information you apparently 'need'.

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so true,

 

To alleviate frustration i've removed myself from most FB groups EXCEPT the ones that are purely social discussions. i.e. F1 and Football.

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Anyone want to meet up at Krispy Kreme?

 

 

Joined a group this comes up all the time :doh:

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As much as I agree with that quote (or the 100 characters my facetube warped mind could take), there was plenty of wastage and misinformation here on the forums before it quietened down. I used to comment out of boredom as did many others, we had people taking shots at each other and being sarcastic so it wasn't perfect. And, it seems like the few remaining members here are actually cool guys who know what they're talking about. Maybe fb has cleansed the forums of generation Me and we (the users) are better off for it.

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As much as I agree with that quote (or the 100 characters my facetube warped mind could take), there was plenty of wastage and misinformation here on the forums before it quietened down. I used to comment out of boredom as did many others, we had people taking shots at each other and being sarcastic so it wasn't perfect. And, it seems like the few remaining members here are actually cool guys who know what they're talking about. Maybe fb has cleansed the forums of generation Me and we (the users) are better off for it.

 

Good point actually. Harris said the same a while back to .

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Remember this 5 years from now when everyone is filling their radiators with gatorade because it is said that it triples your horsepower.

 

Why wouldn't it work...

 

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As much as I agree with that quote (or the 100 characters my facetube warped mind could take), there was plenty of wastage and misinformation here on the forums before it quietened down. I used to comment out of boredom as did many others, we had people taking shots at each other and being sarcastic so it wasn't perfect. And, it seems like the few remaining members here are actually cool guys who know what they're talking about. Maybe fb has cleansed the forums of generation Me and we (the users) are better off for it.

The problem with that is now there's basically no one left. I would much prefer an active forum with a few tards than 3 active members and a few tumbleweeds.

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To add to the rant about Facebook Fools, I was having a laugh the other day with a friend of mine who told me about a debate he had with some idiot whose post appeared on his Facebook feed, claiming that Disney (as in the movie studio) was a racist franchise because all the princesses were white. My initial reaction to that was "what about Mulan (Chinese), Pocahontas (Native American) and Jasmine (Arab)" and as my friend also pointed out, there was another one called Tiana (African-American).

 

After pointing that out to the tinfoil-hat-white-knight retard, they came back with some comment to the effect that "yeah, but almost all of them are white", so my friend stated in more amusing detail:

 

Frozen = Set in a very cold climate, so it makes no sense for the characters to be anything other than ethnically white, because that's how it works out in reality

Brave = Effectively all the characters are Scottish = Ethnically white

Sleeping Beauty = French story = Ethnically white

Beauty and the Beast = French story = Ethnically white

Snow White = German story = Ethnically white

Cinderella = French story = Ethnically white

Rapunzel = German story = Ethnically white

The Little Mermaid = A whole bunch of cultures had Siren/Mermaid myths, but most Joe-average discussion of the topic relate to European sailors/pirates/explorers and their myths = Ethnically white is probably the most sensible choice of ethnicity for that story and time period

 

It's rather tragic that Facebook gives society's biggest morons a platform for preach their idiocy, and even worse, that their followers are of equal intellect and believe them. At least cult leaders and KKK groups have to go and search for members.

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Facebook = Tumblr SJW's?

 

f**k social media, bunch of slack jawed faggots whinging about their 1st world lives. f**k you for having facepage.

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Facebook = Tumblr SJW's?

 

f**k social media, bunch of slack jawed faggots whinging about their 1st world lives. f**k you for having facepage.

 

I only use it for receiving event invitiations and the occasional message. I couldn't care less about Twitter, however Facebook offers worthwhile utility if you don't engage in the BS, and it's worth having a FB profile (even if you don't use it) to avoid identity impersonation.

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To add to the rant about Facebook Fools, I was having a laugh the other day with a friend of mine who told me about a debate he had with some idiot whose post appeared on his Facebook feed, claiming that Disney (as in the movie studio) was a racist franchise because all the princesses were white. My initial reaction to that was "what about Mulan (Chinese), Pocahontas (Native American) and Jasmine (Arab)" and as my friend also pointed out, there was another one called Tiana (African-American). After pointing that out to the tinfoil-hat-white-knight retard, they came back with some comment to the effect that "yeah, but almost all of them are white", so my friend stated in more amusing detail: Frozen = Set in a very cold climate, so it makes no sense for the characters to be anything other than ethnically white, because that's how it works out in reality Brave = Effectively all the characters are Scottish = Ethnically white Sleeping Beauty = French story = Ethnically white Beauty and the Beast = French story = Ethnically white Snow White = German story = Ethnically white Cinderella = French story = Ethnically white Rapunzel = German story = Ethnically white The Little Mermaid = A whole bunch of cultures had Siren/Mermaid myths, but most Joe-average discussion of the topic relate to European sailors/pirates/explorers and their myths = Ethnically white is probably the most sensible choice of ethnicity for that story and time period It's rather tragic that Facebook gives society's biggest morons a platform for preach their idiocy, and even worse, that their followers are of equal intellect and believe them. At least cult leaders and KKK groups have to go and search for members.

 

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Didn't see it as I don't use FB . Cheers .

 

This.

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Facebook = Tumblr SJW's?

 

f**k social media, bunch of slack jawed faggots whinging about their 1st world lives. f**k you for having facepage.

 

I only use it for receiving event invitiations and the occasional message. I couldn't care less about Twitter, however Facebook offers worthwhile utility if you don't engage in the BS, and it's worth having a FB profile (even if you don't use it) to avoid identity impersonation.

 

Twitter is great for getting good customer service. its shit at everything else.

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I've never been a big poster on here either, however have spent many years lurking in the background anyway.

 

I've been a member of a couple of facebook groups over the last couple of years and have removed myself after the constant sick *milkshake* hellaflush trend that seems to have a foothold now and the pointless arguments over "which colour plastidip suits my Rota's better".

 

I still get excited every time I come on here and check active topics to see a new thread has been started of there have been a solid amount of posts made on any particular day.

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Well written, Antonio. You raise some good points. I hadn't realised how big of an issue this is until I rear your post. Although I hadn't been very active in those sorts of groups on Facebook at all. I only recently joined the "silvia life" group which has a fair few of these type of posts. The rest of the ones I'd been in were just about local cruises or posting photos of cars basically. I think if you stick to those types of things, it's pretty good. Sometimes if you just post on your own wall asking for help from friends with something small that seems too trivial to ask on a forum, that's ok too.

 

I'll definitely make a point of using forums rather than social media and encouraging others to do the same.

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Sadly that isn't my post but i do agree with it, and that has nothing to do with being a Mod on here.. id advise for people to join any kind of forum you find an interest in.

I'm on multiple from small forums that have less than 20 active members, to forums where i don't even post purely read,

 

im pretty active on facebook mainly for the messaging service, working in I.T makes it easier to msg on the PC than using the phone.. but still i hate getting into any technical discussion knowing that info will be lost after a day.

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Facebook = Tumblr SJW's?

 

f**k social media, bunch of slack jawed faggots whinging about their 1st world lives. f**k you for having facepage.

 

I only use it for receiving event invitiations and the occasional message. I couldn't care less about Twitter, however Facebook offers worthwhile utility if you don't engage in the BS, and it's worth having a FB profile (even if you don't use it) to avoid identity impersonation.

Lol a couple of months ago, when I was SUPER bored. I actually created a facebook profile of a couple of people. Copied all their photos, went to other profiles, got photos of them there, post on timeline etc. I worked on the profile bit by bit for a month or two, adding friends here and there, carefully crafting a web that was wide enough for immediate friends etc not to notice and eventually bit by bit, kept progressing more intimately through the net and eventually overtook the main profile in question in terms of authenticity because I had more shit on my wall and more friends lol. Didn't do anything malicious with it or anything though, was purely just to see how easily people could be tricked. 'Twas a fun experiment.

 

As for the OP, great post.

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Facebook = Tumblr SJW's?

 

f**k social media, bunch of slack jawed faggots whinging about their 1st world lives. f**k you for having facepage.

 

I only use it for receiving event invitiations and the occasional message. I couldn't care less about Twitter, however Facebook offers worthwhile utility if you don't engage in the BS, and it's worth having a FB profile (even if you don't use it) to avoid identity impersonation.

Lol a couple of months ago, when I was SUPER bored. I actually created a facebook profile of a couple of people. Copied all their photos, went to other profiles, got photos of them there, post on timeline etc. I worked on the profile bit by bit for a month or two, adding friends here and there, carefully crafting a web that was wide enough for immediate friends etc not to notice and eventually bit by bit, kept progressing more intimately through the net and eventually overtook the main profile in question in terms of authenticity because I had more shit on my wall and more friends lol. Didn't do anything malicious with it or anything though, was purely just to see how easily people could be tricked. 'Twas a fun experiment.

 

As for the OP, great post.

 

ahahah well done, that is purely genius!

 

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Reading through this thread reminded me why I deleted my FB years ago

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